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Gliderrider
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Im Rushing Guy, the boss is about, and this PC is only for the CCTV. I was putting my point across, Ill make it look nice when he go's.

Hmm, you allready had.



 
Posted : 27/07/2007 2:10 pm
Gadge
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Read 'Renegade - Hitlers Englishmen'

pretty much all you need to know about the BFC

What a bunch of wasters.

However LAH had two Englishmen in their ranks, they were both mechnaics captured after dunkirk and served with the lieberstandarte in a technical capacity... cant recall my source for that but it's true.





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Posted : 27/07/2007 2:31 pm
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Havent the French just shot a ex SS Charlemane soldier?


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Posted : 27/07/2007 2:33 pm
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I don't think che was planning a representation though I did broach that as mentioned earlier with him as I knew pretty well from other forums the consensus on it ;) , just having watched the program was merely (actually quite intrigued maybes more so) curious as to other peopls opinions on it, Am sure he'll be pleased it wasn't ignored and theres been some input :D and he wondered if people may not reply being quite a delicate subject. It created a smidge of a debate between the two of us so its interesting to see how other people perceive it.

ps I think he's talking about doing a representation to go with vehicular thingy that is in the pipeline ;)



 
Posted : 27/07/2007 2:36 pm
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Read 'Renegade - Hitlers Englishmen'

i would, but... :wink: :lol:

just ordered and paid for the M10's BTW


 
Posted : 27/07/2007 2:38 pm
Helga Geerhart
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Read 'Renegade - Hitlers Englishmen'

pretty much all you need to know about the BFC

What a bunch of wasters.

However LAH had two Englishmen in their ranks, they were both mechnaics captured after dunkirk and served with the lieberstandarte in a technical capacity... cant recall my source for that but it's true.

I may look out for that book, Che isn't a reader however, well not past the forums he likes books with pictures :lol:

I think the programme (steiner maybes able to concur seeing as he watched it too?) that onlly one of the guys in BFC escaped with no punishment at all and now lives in Austrailia (I think)

I thought it was good to put in context those that chose the easy way out (or however you want to look at it) were only ever a total of 150 men at their most and figures declined rapidly towards the end of the war. And that it was 150 out of the 150,000approx British soldiers/mariners etc that actually took on this task, which shows many had some moral stand point, although that can only be assumed as of course they only gave the view of 2 men that didn't join or pay any heed to the BFC and were indeed the ones that heckled them.

As said earlier am a fence wobbler and its one of those subjects I guess we'll never really know the true how it was facts about, so can only assimilate the information given to us, thus atm I neither agree with or against it, but can see how the BFC were scourged amongst what originally was their own kind, however they never really fitted amongst the reich and were indeed frowned upon on that side too, why anyone would want to ostrich size themselves to such great lengths I don't understand. interesting subject though



 
Posted : 27/07/2007 2:43 pm
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I think the programme (steiner maybes able to concur seeing as he watched it too?) that onlly one of the guys in BFC escaped with no punishment at all and now lives in Austrailia (I think)

I watched it this morning before Mr. D brought round some nice de-acts. The guy in question seems like a very arrogant get. He is even drawing a war pension, from the government that he fought as a member of the free corps.

BTW, acording to that programe, their were only 27 fully paid up members of the free corps, with about 100 visiting tthe "Holiday camp" for "education".



 
Posted : 27/07/2007 2:51 pm
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I watched it this morning before Mr. D brought round some nice de-acts. The guy in question seems like a very arrogant get. He is even drawing a war pension, from the government that he fought as a member of the free corps.

Yeah I wondered about that :? but as it didn't say thats all I can do is wonder, but did think it highly odd. But as he said and was confirmed as he'd managed to avoid punishment I guess its something to do with that, hence his reluctance to confirm any details as irrespective of time passed his cushy lifestyle could very quickly change ...... indeed maybes over paranoid but he has good reason considering some of the documents they found his name on :|



 
Posted : 27/07/2007 2:54 pm
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BTW, acording to that programe, their were only 27 fully paid up members of the free corps, with about 100 visiting tthe "Holiday camp" for "education".

you would add more to a post after I've replied wouldn't you...oh you are sooooo awkward sydley :lol:

Yes I agree 'Holiday camp' should be used in the loosest of terms, there were documentation though showing what some of that 'education' consisted of, makes me wonder if the men that were BFC (have you noticed I don't like using its full title :oops: ) realise how many of their documents remain in German custody and complete with their signatures on them .....



 
Posted : 27/07/2007 2:57 pm
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you would add more to a post after I've replied wouldn't you...oh you are sooooo awkward sydley :lol:

Im still blaming work, it should be illegal, at least those house wives have a cushy number, get up around dinner time, watch montel and this morning they have recorded on sky plus, that I paying for through my taxes.........

(Helga, what are you looking at me like that for?.... No put that down, no, dont hit me with that.... No, God No...... God, what have I done? A monster has got loose.... NO!!!!!!!!!!!)



 
Posted : 27/07/2007 3:14 pm
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(Helga, what are you looking at me like that for?.... No put that down, no, dont hit me with that.... No, God No...... God, what have I done? A monster has got loose.... NO!!!!!!!!!!!)

Have you been talking to che, my gawd I could almost here his voice when reading that ....... :twisted: :lol: :lol: well maybes not but am sure I heard him thunked it before now (yes I know theres no such word as thunked most likely but it sounded so apt I dared use it :rasp: ) :lol:



 
Posted : 27/07/2007 3:30 pm
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A bit of research turns up the following gems.

They never had strenght of over 30!
They were issued weapons but never issued ammunition
They saw the front line once and were instantly sent back by the OC before they'd even debussed.

My personal bugbear is tthe soft ods who badge up as BFC with 'Britische Frei Korps' cufftitles.

Thats cufftitle never exsisted, it was in English as British Free Corps

(they wanted to be called the legion of St George but thought it would caus e too much trouble with the British legion.)

There's a lovely bit of fiction involving a a BFC member in the 'eagle has landed' . Harvey Preston is attached to Steiners group to keep an eye on the operation from the SS's persepcitve. They took him out of the film for some reason, he was a great character and personified the sort of bloke the BFC recruited.





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Posted : 27/07/2007 4:36 pm
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Someone mentioned charlemagne :twisted:

Best unit period :P

But back to evaluating the use of the BFC, they were such a small unit that they are relegated to historical quirks, rather than a unit with any significance or combat value. Even their value as propaganda tools is dubious as the POW's still in camps seemed to reject their appeals and attempts to encourage people to join.

None of the other foreign SS units get so much love, but I think it's just that England was such a major member of the Allies that the idea of English soldiers fighting for Germany is intriguing to all those interested in Axis military history.


 
Posted : 27/07/2007 5:23 pm
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I am tempted to scan my Commando mag about this,if anyone wants me to tell me because i dont want to do it for no reason.


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Posted : 27/07/2007 5:46 pm
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If its passed 9 there is a 95% chance im pissed.

 
Posted : 27/07/2007 5:53 pm
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Found this US free corp dont think it existed.


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Posted : 27/07/2007 6:09 pm
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Found this US free corp dont think it existed.

Nazi furries? that's just wrong on so many levels. :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:


 
Posted : 27/07/2007 6:23 pm
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:lol: :lol:


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Posted : 27/07/2007 6:26 pm
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Leave Nazi furries to Morden's peculiar breed of madness please .


 
Posted : 27/07/2007 7:14 pm
Gadge
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A bit of research turns up the following gems.

They never had strenght of over 30!
They were issued weapons but never issued ammunition
They saw the front line once and were instantly sent back by the OC before they'd even debussed.

My personal bugbear is tthe soft ods who badge up as BFC with 'Britische Frei Korps' cufftitles.

Thats cufftitle never exsisted, it was in English as British Free Corps

(they wanted to be called the legion of St George but thought it would caus e too much trouble with the British legion.)

There's a lovely bit of fiction involving a a BFC member in the 'eagle has landed' . Harvey Preston is attached to Steiners group to keep an eye on the operation from the SS's persepcitve. They took him out of the film for some reason, he was a great character and personified the sort of bloke the BFC recruited.

Whats the link between my post and that pic Lewis?

Or did you accidsdently quote me





"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."

 
Posted : 27/07/2007 7:19 pm
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